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Ian Punnett was joined, for the full four hours, by author Gregg Braden and
C2C science advisor Richard C. Hoagland for a discussion of the mayan calendar end date of December
21, 2012 phenomenon and what it means spiritually and physically for
Earth and sociologically for its denizens while dispelling end of the worldapocalypse predictions.
The 2012 Phenomenon
Date: 11-29-09
Host: Ian Punnett
Guests: Gregg Braden, Richard C. Hoagland
"My sense is that we are, in fact, living the end of a rare and
mysterious cycle of time," Braden mused.
Regarding mainstream scientists who dismiss the idea of a 2012 event,
Hoagland explained that this is because they refuse to examine the
emerging science of torsion physics, which he believes plays a major
role in the cycle coming to an end.
Braden noted that data from both archaeological and polar ice cap
studies suggests that the current physical condition of Earth is very
similar to previous time periods going through the cycle. Additionally,
he explained that his research on polar shifts indicates that such an
event requires the magnetic field of earth passing through a certain
low threshold.
TRIVIA: Ivan Stein's research has shown that ice ages occur once every 103,000
years or so. After 80,000 years, we begin to "thaw out" and end up with
approximately 10-20,000 years of liveable climate.
Currently, Braden said, Earth's magnetic field is "so far above the
measurement" that the possibility of crossing the threshold in the next
three years "looks pretty slim."
On the concern that many have with 2012-related
disasters, Braden said, "physical changes, we've always survived. What we haven't
survived is the way that we treat one another as we go through that
change."
To that end, Hoagland noted an ongoing increase in cultural
polarization, a trend that can be seen most clearly in contemporary
politics. Looking at the past, he recalled how this polarity may be a
symptom of the impending 2012 event as "these other civilizations
killed themselves" while going through the cycle.
"It's more the psychological, consciousness aspect of this
physics that we may have to fear, at the moment, than the physical
aspect," Hoagland suggested.
As such, he expressed concern that 2012 could be used by nefarious
forces to steer humankind towards a darker future, should the event
usher in a spiritual consciousness shift.
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Date: 11-29-09 
